NH35 vs NH38: Which Seiko Movement Is Right for You?

Quick Answer: The Seiko NH35 and NH38 are nearly identical movements with one key difference: the NH35 has a date complication, while the NH38 is date-less. Both offer 41-hour power reserve, ±20 sec/day accuracy, hacking, and hand-winding. Choose NH35 if you want date functionality; choose NH38 for cleaner dials or vintage aesthetics.

Table of Contents

• Introduction to Seiko's NH Movement Family
• NH35 Overview
• NH38 Overview
• Head-to-Head Comparison
• Which Movement Should You Choose?
• Frequently Asked Questions

Introduction to Seiko's NH Movement Family

Seiko movements are the workhorses of the affordable automatic watch world. Manufactured by Seiko Instruments Inc. (SII), these calibers power everything from budget microbrands to respected Seiko mod builds. They're essentially the "unsealed" versions of Seiko's 4R-series movements, meaning they're sold to third-party watchmakers without Seiko branding.

The NH35 movement and NH38 are the two most popular calibers in this family. Understanding their differences helps you make informed decisions whether you're buying a finished watch or building your own mod.

The NH Movement Lineup

• NH35A: Date at 3 o'clock, 24 jewels
• NH36A: Day-date at 3 o'clock, 24 jewels
• NH38A: No date, 24 jewels
• NH39A: Small seconds at 6 o'clock, no date, 24 jewels
• NH70/NH72: Open-heart variants

NH35 Overview

Specifications

• Caliber: NH35A
• Type: Automatic with manual winding
• Diameter: 27.4mm
• Thickness: 4.8mm
• Jewels: 24
• Frequency: 21,600 bph (6 beats per second)
• Power Reserve: 41 hours
• Accuracy: ±20 seconds per day
• Features: Hacking, hand-winding, quickset date
• Date Position: 3 o'clock

Advantages of NH35

1. Date Functionality: Practical for daily wear—know the date at a glance
2. Quickset Date: Easy date adjustment via crown position
3. Universal Compatibility: Most aftermarket dials and cases designed for NH35
4. Parts Availability: Largest selection of compatible components
5. Resale Value: More buyers prefer date function

Disadvantages of NH35

1. Date Window Limits Dial Options: Must use dials with date cutout
2. Slightly Thicker: Date mechanism adds minimal thickness
3. Date Wheel Alignment: Potential for misaligned date (quality control dependent)
4. Vintage Aesthetics Compromised: Many vintage-inspired designs were no-date

NH38 Overview

Specifications

• Caliber: NH38A
• Type: Automatic with manual winding
• Diameter: 27.4mm
• Thickness: 4.49mm
• Jewels: 24
• Frequency: 21,600 bph (6 beats per second)
• Power Reserve: 41 hours
• Accuracy: ±20 seconds per day
• Features: Hacking, hand-winding
• Date Position: None

Advantages of NH38

1. Cleaner Dial Design: No date window means symmetrical, balanced aesthetics
2. Thinner Profile: 0.31mm thinner than NH35—noticeable in slim cases
3. No Date Alignment Issues: One less thing to go wrong
4. Vintage Authenticity: Perfect for vintage-inspired builds (Submariner 5513, early Speedmaster, etc.)
5. No Quickset "Danger Zone": Can adjust time freely without worrying about date mechanism

Disadvantages of NH38

1. No Date Function: Must check phone or calendar for date
2. Limited Dial Selection: Fewer aftermarket dials available (though growing)
3. Lower Resale Appeal: Some buyers specifically want date function
4. Parts Compatibility: Cannot swap to date dial later without movement change

Head-to-Head Comparison

Specifications Table

Key Differences Explained

1. The Date Mechanism

This is the fundamental difference. The NH35 includes a date wheel, date driving wheel, and quickset mechanism. The Seiko NH38 movement removes these components entirely, resulting in a slightly simpler movement.

The date mechanism in NH35 means:

• You can see the current date through a dial window
• You can quickly set the date by pulling the crown to position 1
• You should avoid adjusting the date between 9 PM and 3 AM (the "danger zone" when date changes)

2. Thickness Difference (0.31mm)

The NH38 is 0.31mm thinner than the NH35. This sounds negligible, but in slim dress watch builds, it can make a meaningful difference:

• In a 10mm case, that's 3% of total thickness
• Combined with a domed crystal vs flat, the difference becomes noticeable
• For dive watch cases (13mm+), the difference is irrelevant

3. Dial Compatibility

NH35 dials have a cutout at 3 o'clock for the date window. NH38 dials have no cutout. They are NOT interchangeable:

• NH35 dial on NH38: Blocked date window shows nothing (looks broken)
• NH38 dial on NH35: Date wheel visible through missing cutout (looks terrible)

Always match your movement to your dial type.

Which Movement Should You Choose?

Choose NH35 If:

• You want to know the date at a glance (practical daily wear)
• You're building a dive watch, tool watch, or GMT-style watch
• You want maximum aftermarket dial options
• Resale value matters to you
• You're replicating a date-window design (Submariner Date, Datejust, etc.)

Choose NH38 If:

• You prefer clean, symmetrical dial design
• You're building a vintage-inspired watch (Submariner 5513, early Speedmaster, etc.)
• You want the thinnest possible case
• You never use the date function anyway
• You're building a dress watch where date windows feel too casual
• You hate date alignment issues

Build-Specific Recommendations

Frequently Asked Questions

Can I convert NH35 to NH38 or vice versa?

No. While they share the same case mounting dimensions, the movements are fundamentally different. Converting would require replacing the entire movement, not just swapping parts. If you want to change from date to no-date, you need to buy the other movement.

Is NH38 more reliable because it's simpler?

Theoretically, fewer parts means fewer potential failure points. In practice, both movements are extremely reliable, and the date mechanism in NH35 rarely causes issues. Don't choose NH38 purely for "reliability"—choose based on whether you want a date function.

Which movement do most microbrands use?

NH35 dominates the market because most customers expect date functionality. However, NH38 usage is growing as vintage-inspired designs become more popular. Brands like San Martin, Heimdallr, and Steeldive offer both variants.

Are NH35 and NH38 the same as Seiko 4R35 and 4R38?

Essentially yes. The 4R35 and 4R38 are Seiko-branded versions of the same movements, used in Seiko's own watches (like the Presage and Prospex lines). NH35/NH38 are the "generic" versions sold to third parties without Seiko branding. Specifications are identical.

What about NH36 (day-date)?

The NH36 adds a day wheel to the NH35, showing both day of week and date. It's thicker (5.32mm) and requires day-date compatible dials. Choose NH36 for Day-Date homages or if you want maximum information on your dial.

Can I regulate NH35/NH38 for better accuracy?

Yes. Both movements can be regulated by a watchmaker to achieve better than ±20 sec/day accuracy. Many modders report achieving ±5-10 sec/day after regulation. The regulation process is identical for both calibers.

Which has better resale value?

Generally, watches with date functions sell easier because more buyers want that feature. However, for specific vintage homages (like Submariner 5513 builds), no-date can actually command a premium among enthusiasts who value authenticity.

Do NH35 and NH38 use the same hands?

Yes. Both movements use the same hand sizes and mounting holes. Hour, minute, and second hands are fully interchangeable between NH35 and NH38 builds.

Conclusion

The NH35 vs NH38 decision ultimately comes down to one question: Do you want a date window?

• Yes → NH35
• No → NH38

Everything else—power reserve, accuracy, reliability, price—is identical. Don't overthink it. Both are excellent movements that will serve you well for years.

For most practical daily-wear watches, the NH35's date function adds genuine utility. For vintage-inspired builds, dress watches, or anyone who values dial symmetry, the NH38's clean face is worth the trade-off.

At SKYRIM, we use both movements depending on the design. Our Submariner Date homages use NH35; our no-date vintage divers use NH38. The movement serves the design, not the other way around.

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