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The Seiko NH38 Movement: Complete Guide to the No-Date Workhorse

⚡ Quick Answer

The Seiko NH38 is a Japanese automatic movement without a date complication. It's the no-date variant of the popular NH35, featuring 24 jewels, 21,600 vph beat rate, and 41-hour power reserve. The NH38 is favored by watch modders and microbrands for clean, minimalist dial designs where a date window would disrupt symmetry.

What Is the Seiko NH38 Movement?

The Seiko NH38 is a time-only automatic movement manufactured by Seiko Instruments Inc. (SII). As the no-date sibling of the NH35, it eliminates the date complication entirely, resulting in a cleaner dial layout and slightly simpler operation. This makes it the go-to choice for vintage-inspired designs, field watches, and any timepiece where visual balance takes priority over functionality.

Like all movements in Seiko's NH family, the NH38 is designed specifically for third-party use and the modding community. It shares the same reliable architecture as the NH35 and 4R38, making it an affordable yet dependable choice for custom watch builds.

Key Characteristics of the NH38

  • No Date Complication: Clean dial without date window interruption
  • Time-Only Function: Hours, minutes, seconds display only
  • Hacking Seconds: Second hand stops when crown is pulled for precise time setting
  • Manual Winding: Can be hand-wound in addition to automatic winding
  • Japanese Manufacturing: Produced by Seiko Instruments Inc.
  • Mod-Friendly: Compatible with standard Seiko case and dial dimensions

History and Development

The NH38 emerged as part of Seiko's strategy to serve the growing watch modification market. While Seiko's in-house 4R series movements powered their retail watches, the NH series was developed for third-party distribution, giving independent watchmakers and hobbyists access to reliable Japanese movements at competitive prices.

Period Development
2000s Seiko develops 4R series movements for consumer watches
Early 2010s NH35/NH36 introduced for third-party market distribution
Mid 2010s NH38 (no-date variant) released to meet demand for cleaner dials
Present NH38 becomes standard choice for minimalist and vintage-style builds

NH38 vs 4R38: The NH38 and 4R38 are functionally identical movements. The 4R38 designation is used in Seiko-branded retail watches, while NH38 is the name used for movements sold to third parties. If you own a Seiko watch with a 4R38, you essentially have an NH38 inside.

Complete Technical Specifications

Specification Value
Movement Type Automatic (self-winding) with manual wind
Caliber Number NH38 / 4R38
Manufacturer Seiko Instruments Inc. (SII)
Country of Origin Japan
Jewels 24 jewels
Frequency 21,600 vph (3 Hz)
Power Reserve 41 hours (approximately)
Accuracy -20/+40 seconds per day
Diameter 27.4 mm
Height/Thickness 5.32 mm
Stem Position 3 o'clock (standard)
Winding Direction Bi-directional (both directions wind)
Hacking Yes
Hand Winding Yes
Date Function No
Day Function No

Understanding the No-Date Design

The defining feature of the NH38 is what it doesn't have: a date complication. While this might seem like a limitation, the absence of a date window offers several distinct advantages for certain watch designs.

Why Choose No-Date?

Dial Symmetry: Without a date window cutting into the dial at 3, 4, or 6 o'clock, designers have complete freedom to create perfectly symmetrical layouts. This is particularly important for minimalist watches where every element must be intentionally placed.

Vintage Authenticity: Many classic watch designs from the 1940s-1960s didn't include dates. When recreating these vintage aesthetics, a no-date movement maintains historical accuracy.

Reduced Thickness: While the NH38 shares the same 5.32mm height as the NH35, the absence of date mechanism complexity can make dial installation slightly easier and allows for cleaner dial feet placement.

No Date-Setting Required: You never need to worry about setting the date after the watch stops, and there's no concern about the "danger zone" of adjusting dates between 9 PM and 3 AM that exists with date movements.

Crown Positions and Operation

The NH38 features a simple two-position crown system, making it straightforward to operate:

Position Crown State Function
Position 0 Pushed in (normal) Manual winding - turn clockwise to wind mainspring
Position 1 Pulled out (one click) Time setting - seconds hand stops (hacking), turn to set time

How to Use Your NH38-Powered Watch

  1. Initial Winding: With crown pushed in, rotate clockwise 20-30 times to build initial power reserve. The movement will click as you wind - this is normal.
  2. Setting the Time: Pull crown out to Position 1. The second hand will stop (hacking feature). Rotate crown to set correct time.
  3. Starting the Watch: Push crown back to Position 0. The second hand resumes movement. For precision, pull crown at the 60-second mark and push in when your reference time reaches that point.
  4. Daily Wear: Once running, your wrist movement keeps the watch wound automatically. The bi-directional rotor winds efficiently regardless of arm motion direction.

Pro Tip: Unlike date-equipped movements, the NH38 has no restrictions on when you can adjust the time. Feel free to set the time forward or backward at any hour without risk of damaging the movement.

Where the NH38 Is Used

Watch Modding Community

The NH38 has become essential for Seiko modders building custom watches. Its compatibility with standard Seiko cases, dials, and hands makes it a drop-in replacement for projects where a clean dial is desired. Popular applications include:

  • SKX007/009 no-date conversions
  • Vintage-style field watch builds
  • Minimalist dress watch projects
  • Explorer-style homage watches
  • Pilot watch builds with sterile dials

Microbrand Watches

Independent watch brands frequently choose the NH38 for their no-date models. The movement's reliability, serviceability, and reasonable cost make it ideal for watches in the $150-$500 range where Japanese quality is expected but Swiss pricing isn't justified.

Custom Watch Builders

At SKYRIM, we use the NH38 in our custom builds that prioritize clean aesthetics. When building watches inspired by classic tool watch designs or creating minimalist everyday pieces, the NH38 provides the reliable foundation these timepieces deserve.

NH38 vs NH35: Key Differences

The NH38 and NH35 share nearly identical specifications, with one crucial difference:

Feature NH38 NH35
Date Function No Yes (at 3 o'clock)
Crown Positions 2 positions 3 positions
Jewels 24 24
Frequency 21,600 vph 21,600 vph
Power Reserve 41 hours 41 hours
Thickness 5.32 mm 5.32 mm
Diameter 27.4 mm 27.4 mm
Hacking Yes Yes
Hand Winding Yes Yes
Accuracy -20/+40 sec/day -20/+40 sec/day
Dial Compatibility No-date dials only Date or no-date dials

Which Should You Choose?

Choose NH38 if:

  • You want a perfectly symmetrical dial without date window
  • Building a vintage-inspired watch
  • Creating a minimalist or field watch design
  • You rarely use the date function anyway
  • Simplicity in operation is preferred

Choose NH35 if:

  • You check the date frequently
  • Building a modern tool watch or diver
  • You want flexibility to use either date or no-date dials
  • The date window doesn't bother your design aesthetic

Advantages of the NH38

✓ Advantages

  • Clean dial without date window interruption
  • Perfect for vintage and minimalist designs
  • Simple two-position crown operation
  • No date-setting "danger zone" concerns
  • Reliable Japanese automatic movement
  • Affordable replacement and service costs
  • Bi-directional winding for efficiency
  • Hacking seconds for precise time setting
  • Wide parts compatibility (cases, dials, hands)
  • 41-hour power reserve handles weekend rest

✗ Limitations

  • No date display (by design)
  • Accuracy spec (-20/+40s) below Swiss standards
  • Lower beat rate than higher-end movements
  • Basic finishing on visible rotor
  • Shorter power reserve than modern premium movements
  • No quickset anything (time-only)

Accuracy and Regulation

The NH38's official specification of -20/+40 seconds per day is conservative. In practice, most NH38 movements run between -10 to +15 seconds per day out of the box. With proper regulation by a watchmaker, many can achieve +/-5 seconds daily.

Factors affecting accuracy include:

  • Position: Accuracy varies depending on whether the watch is dial-up, crown-down, etc.
  • Temperature: Extreme temperatures can affect rate
  • Power reserve level: More accurate when fully wound
  • Magnetization: Exposure to magnetic fields can affect accuracy
  • Age and service: Regular service maintains accuracy

Servicing and Maintenance

The NH38 is designed to be serviceable and maintainable:

Service Interval: Recommended every 3-5 years, though many run well for longer with normal use.

Service Cost: Significantly lower than Swiss movements. Many watchmakers simply replace the movement entirely given the low cost ($30-50 for the movement).

Parts Availability: Excellent. The NH38's popularity means replacement parts and complete movements are readily available worldwide.

DIY Friendly: With basic tools and knowledge, hobbyists can perform movement swaps and basic regulation at home.

Frequently Asked Questions

Is the NH38 the same as the 4R38?
Yes, they are identical movements. The 4R38 is used in Seiko-branded retail watches, while NH38 is the designation for movements sold to third parties. Specifications, parts, and performance are the same.
Can I use an NH35 dial with an NH38 movement?
You can use no-date dials interchangeably. However, if the dial has a date window cutout, you'll see the blank movement underneath where the date disc would be - not ideal aesthetically.
What's the power reserve of the NH38?
Approximately 41 hours when fully wound. This means a fully wound watch can sit unworn for nearly two days before stopping.
Does the NH38 hack?
Yes. When you pull the crown out to set the time, the seconds hand stops. This allows you to set the time precisely to a reference clock.
Can I manually wind the NH38?
Yes. With the crown in the normal pushed-in position, rotating clockwise will wind the mainspring. This is useful when starting a stopped watch or topping off the power reserve.
How accurate is the NH38?
Official specs are -20/+40 seconds per day. Real-world performance is often better, with many examples running +/-10 seconds daily. Professional regulation can improve this further.
Why choose NH38 over NH35?
Choose the NH38 when you want a clean dial without a date window. It's ideal for vintage-style watches, minimalist designs, field watches, and any build where dial symmetry is important.
Is the NH38 reliable?
Extremely reliable. Seiko movements have a reputation for durability built over decades. The NH38 uses proven technology and is designed to run for years with minimal maintenance.
What cases fit the NH38?
The NH38 fits any case designed for the Seiko 7S26, NH35, NH36, 4R35, 4R36, or similar calibers. This includes SKX cases, Turtle cases, and most aftermarket mod cases.
Can the NH38 be regulated?
Yes. A watchmaker can adjust the regulator to improve accuracy. The movement also responds well to positional adjustments for those seeking optimal performance.
Where is the NH38 made?
The NH38 is manufactured by Seiko Instruments Inc. (SII) in Japan. It carries "Japan Made" designation and represents genuine Japanese watchmaking quality.

Build Your Custom No-Date Watch

Looking for a clean, minimalist timepiece? SKYRIM offers custom builds featuring the reliable NH38 movement. From vintage-inspired field watches to modern minimalist designs, we create no-date watches that match your style.

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Conclusion

The Seiko NH38 represents the perfect solution for watch enthusiasts who appreciate clean dial designs. By eliminating the date complication, it opens up possibilities for symmetrical layouts, vintage-faithful recreations, and minimalist aesthetics that date-equipped movements simply can't achieve.

While it shares almost everything with the NH35 - the same reliability, the same proven Seiko engineering, the same mod-friendly dimensions - the NH38 stands on its own as the definitive choice for no-date builds. Whether you're a modder building your first custom watch, a microbrand launching a new model, or simply someone who prefers the cleaner look, the NH38 delivers Japanese quality without compromise.

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